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  • May. 1st, 2008 at 12:38 PM
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I'm taking advantage of still having internet at home when I thought it was going to turn off last night (we're in household internet transition) to post one last thing before I go dark for a week. I'll be at IRA next week, so it's unlikely I'll be posting from there.

On the flip side of the content question coin, a reader asks,

I’ve been reading your blog for awhile with interest. I have written a teen fantasy and I have a question about Mirrorstone and YA in general. My novel has some profanity, drinking, and sex. (I like to call it a Veronica Mars meets Tamora Pierce meets Joss Whedon type of book) This seems quite ordinary to me as my protagonist is seventeen years old. (And I remember high school vividly.) But I keep hearing that YA should be ‘cleaner’. Is that true and does it mean that I should submit to Wizards under the adult imprint?
Thanks for reading! As are most of my answers, this one is "it depends."

How graphic is the mature content? We at Mirrorstone keep to a fairly strict PG-13 standard, so anything of a graphic nature really isn't for us, but that doesn't mean we don't shy away from tough subjects. But Wizards books often have that restriction as well (though not as strictly) because of corporate policy--there is just a line we won't cross as a company.

That doesn't mean you won't find that kind of thing out there, though, in the YA marketplace. There is a YA book to suit pretty much any teen's taste, from the gamut of innocent adventure and fantasy like Shannon Hale (who nevertheless also doesn't shy away from extremely tough subjects) to the darker work of Holly Black and Melissa Marr. (See that previous post for more on that.)

But that doesn't mean we're the right publisher for you. Or it might. The best way to answer this question is to read widely. Read all our YA books--check out our anthology, Magic in the Mirrorstone, and see the kind of variety we're looking for--and notice that it has a Holly Black story and a Cecil Castellucci story, both authors who are known for their edgy material. Look at how they crafted their stories, and see if your work fits within that same gamut. Then check out other books from other publishers putting out books similar to yours, and after all that, submit accordingly. You may decide that we're not quite a fit for you--but then, you might.

Now, the secondary issue in your question is adult versus YA. Is an edgy novel with a 17-year-old protagonist YA, or is it adult?

Again, it depends.

Generally if your protagonist is living your story in the moment--not looking back on being 17 from the point of view of a 30-something--then that's one clue that it's YA.

Generally if teens (including the teen you remember yourself being at 15 or 16, because kids read up) would be more interested in the story than adults would, then it's YA. Check out coverage of the "Think Future" Panel Debates to see some good discussion of this issue. Note what George Nicholson of Sterling Lord Literistic said about S.E. Hinton's books:

Nicholson provided some historical perspective, recalling the days there was no category called “young adult.” Then, in the 1970s, a few writers came along “who had a social context,” such as S.E. Hinton, and a teen audience was identified and located. “When [Hinton] was first published by Viking,” Nicholson recalled, “No one wanted it in the adult world. But when the book was republished as a book for teens, with a new cover, it began to sell in the millions.”
With that in mind, who do you see reading your books? Thirty-somethings? Twenty-somethings? Or right smack in the teen years, anywhere from 12 to 18 or 19 year olds?

Also, boys or girls?

If you're looking for teens to read it, you should be trying to sell it to a publisher who publishes books for teens, and then target a YA publisher who targets the readership you're looking to reach. 

Teens, especially boys, do read the books published by the adult imprint at Wizards, so perhaps that complicates it and takes you back to square one, but I think if you just make sure to keep in mind what kinds of books that publisher makes and send it to the imprint with books most like your own, you'll be fine.

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(Anonymous) wrote:
May. 2nd, 2008 12:55 pm (UTC)
I've got to say, if I was an agent and anyone even mentioned Joss Wheedon in a comparison, I'd be hard pressed not to ask for pages. I love that man, and am still looking for someone to fill a Firefly sized hole in my heart.

...but your post led me to another question. From your blog and the submissions guidelines on Mirrorstone's website, I thought you were more interested in representing works along D&D lines. I know you're not looking for new authors in the already established series, but are you looking for a wider range of YA books in general, or only books along the same audience of DL or D&D?
[info]slwhitman wrote:
May. 2nd, 2008 03:30 pm (UTC)
I'm not sure where you'd get the idea from our website that we're only looking for books like D&D. Our submission guidelines do not say anything about looking for books specifically in a D&D world (though such books are welcome, we're not looking for something in a world like that right now--which could change at any time, of course).

I do work on that kind of thing, among others, and we love dragons and monsters and adventurous quests, but those particular books on our website are not even YA. The Practical Guides are picture books, for example, and Dragonlance: The New Adventures and the Dragon Codex books, which are set in the Dragonlance world, are middle grade (ages 8-12).

But though the dragon-related books are our newest middle grade and picture books, that's only a fraction of the kind of books we publish and that we're looking for. For all ages, we're looking for a broad range of fantasy: historical, contemporary, light, dark. Like Hallowmere (dark historical teen fantasy), or The Supernatural Rubber Chicken (light fantasy for transitional readers), or Time Spies (time travel fantasy).

There's such a broad range of fantasy out there for young readers of all ages, that we can't--and shouldn't--just limit ourselves to one niche of the market. Much as that market might be enjoyable, that's only one segment of the reading audience.

I'll stress again to look at Magic in the Mirrorstone. The huge variety of style and content among those fifteen stories should give you an idea of the broad range of stories we're looking for in the YA market.

Edited at 2008-05-02 03:34 pm (UTC)

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